President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, called in to "Outnumbered" Monday to clarify remarks he made earlier in the day on "Fox & Friends" about alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian Federation.
Even without collusion being a criminal offense, USA legal analysts say Mueller is likely investigating a possible conspiracy, a criminal offense, to connect with a foreign government to influence the election and probing numerous ties Trump campaign aides had with Russian interests.
He said: "I have been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime.Collusion is not a crime".
The President has repeatedly denied that there was any collusion between his campaign and Moscow, and he told The New York Times in December that "collusion is not a crime". "He said, No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. Three: It's a crime to steal things, whether you steal objects, like everything that was ripped off in Watergate, or you steal email, which is what is at issue in Mueller's latest indictment". "The President didn't hack". "He didn't pay for the hacking".
Giuliani explained that because of the great work Trump's attorneys did early on - providing Mueller with "1.4 million documents" and "32 witnesses" - Trump's legal team is in a position today in which they no longer need to cooperate. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it's not a crime.
Of course, whether or not Trump was there is not the question.
"He erased them, sure", he said, adding that the Trump legal team has "experts going through it".
But Mr Giuliani was persuaded to continue with the fiery interview at the compromise of being offered some coffee.
This isn't the first time a former Trump supporter has claimed the President knew of the meeting. Giuliani added that other people who could corroborate Cohen's account would not do so, and he charged that Cohen was making these claims now because he feels the criminal investigation closing in on him. "Your client, Trump, is under investigation by the Special Counsel for both". And as Robert Mueller ramps up the pressure and former Trump officials are heading to court - albeit on charges unrelated to Russian Federation - the game is on for the White House PR team to get ahead of criticism aimed at Donald Trump's path to the Oval Office.